Dropped back in on the summit and found another Democratic nonwhite guy. Rep. Xavier Becerra squabbled a bit with Paul Ryan, and makes the point that if you throw out CBO numbers, we can’t discuss this.
(CBO tells us the Dems health care reform bills reduce the deficit by 100 billion in the first ten years. Ryan may disagree with those numbers, but they’re the best we have, and the best we’re going to have.)
Boehner is up:
Thank you for having us. A useful conversation. Don’t disagree with premise of meeting.
Our job is to listen. I’ve heard an awful lot. What I’ve heard more than anything ist hat the American people want us to scrap this bill.
Let’s talk about why
Fiscal condition. We’re going broke. This new entitlement program will bankrupt our country. I think this is a dangerous experiment. We may have problems, but we have the best health care system in the world. A government takeover of health care, and I believe that’s what that is, is risky.
The last thing we need to do is raise taxes. $500 billion in cuts to Medicare. It’s going to drive up unemployment. Employers will dump employees into the exchange. Federal government is going to design every single health care plan in America within five years. For thirty years we've had a federal law that says we’re not going to have federal taxpayer funding for abortions. This bill allows for taxpayer funding for abortions
So let’s scrap the bill. Let’s start with a clean sheet of paper we can agree on.
I’ve been patient, I’ve listened. Why can’t we come to an agreement on selling across state lines, malpractice, etc.
(A thoroughly dishonest and distasteful performance.)
Obama: every so often we go back to the standard talking points. And that doesn’t drive us to agreement. There’s so many things you said, that people here disagree with and based on my analysis, just aren’t true. We were trying to focus on the deficit. The CBO says this will reduce the deficit. Paul may disagree. I’ll get back to you on some of these.
Rep. Jim Cooper. Medical expenses driving us off the cliff. Tough talk is not good enough, we need to take tough votes.
Dick Durbin
Orin Hatch asked CBO about tort reform. It saves $54 billion over ten years.
5.4 billion a year is a lot of money except when compared to the 2 trillion we spend each year on health care.
And if we do have tort reform, more people will die. Thousands more.
There are other ways to reduce medical errors and lawsuits that should not be filed.
The number of paid malpractice claims have been cut in half in the last ten years.
Money paid has been going down, cut in half in last ten years.
This is an important issue but to make it the overriding issue is [wrong]
The best health care system in the world for the wealthy. We should give everyone the same plan congress has. If you think it’s a socialist plot for goodness sake drop out of the federal health benefit plan.
(One of the more powerful, and shortest, speeches today.)
Obama: looking at access now. Republican plan would cover an additional 3 million, Dem plan would cover an additional 30 million.
This may be most contentious part: it does cost money. But let’s not pretend that we’re going to cover another $30 million for free. If we think its important as a society to not leave people out then we’re going to have to figure out a way to pay for it.
John Barrasso
This is about all Americans, not just those who don’t have insurance (???).
He says *everyone* believes that passing the bill will increase costs. Will make care worse. Will hurt seniors.
They all believe that because you keep lying to them.
Gotta take another break.
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